- It's once again time to
get gutsy with Liz Hall
and her expert guests on
the Gutsy Babe Podcast.
- Welcome to the Gutsy Babe Podcast.
I'm your host, Liz Hall.
On today's episode,
we'll be talking about
breakthroughs in natural medicine
with my guest functional
medicine author, lecturer,
and all around expert Adam Banning.
Adam, welcome to the Gutsy Bay Podcast.
- Ooh, I am so happy to be
here. Just pick my brains.
Here we go.
- I have so many questions for you, Uhhuh.
So why don't we just get started.
So, Adam, you had mentioned
there is a direct connection
between inflammation and depression.
Can you discuss that for our listeners?
- You know, it's really
interesting, lots of clinicians, up
until about, hmm, around
20 years ago right now,
um, had a suspicion that when
individuals were inflamed,
especially in regards to
chronic joint issues like
rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis
and things like that,
they tended to be sadder.
They tended to have more melancholy,
but the actual connection
between systemic inflammation
of those types of disorders Mm-Hmm. ,
um, and now they're finding
out with such simple things
as the inflammation that you
would have from bleeding gums,
periodontal disease, something that half
of America suffers from.
Mm-Hmm. When you have that inflammation,
what they found out is
it stops the conversion
of a amino acid, where we're
used to bumping into it
and hearing about it on Thanksgiving.
That being tryptophan
from the turkeys, okay.
It stops the conversion,
the natural conversion
of tryptophan into
something called serotonin,
which we know is the
happy neurotransmitter.
Okay. You get serotonin,
you're happier, you're calmer.
So basically, they found out
that even relatively small
amounts of inflammation can,
can inhibit the conversion
from tryptophan to serotonin.
And that is the connection.
It's known within the research studies
as the cytokine depression
connection, cytokine stands
for communicators of inflammation.
- I feel that the older you get,
the more your body gets
inflamed . So that could be
- Depressing.
Isn't that interesting, ? Yeah.
Also, there was some interesting
studies I looked at the
other day in regards to allergies,
how as people grow older,
they develop more allergies,
- Which is very true with me personally.
- I isn't that interesting? Yes.
So, so I I, I mean, it's interesting.
I've been working on
something right now in regards
to building up my body's
intracellular glutathione.
Do you, do you want me to share this
with, with the, with the people
- Please.
- So what I was doing,
I was, I was saying,
is there some way to
make my cells younger?
I mean, everybody asks that
question from Ponsa Deion,
who's searching for it in
Florida to find the mountain
of youth all the way
to every scientist and,
and now and every consumer.
Um, one of the interesting
things is that they're starting
to accept,
and there's almost a consensus
amongst the medical research
community that if you have
more, more glutathione
in your cells, okay,
the substance known as
glutathione, it's known
as intracellular glutathione. Okay.
- How do you know, like, what
kind of test is this? Like,
- Well, those kind of tests, those kind
of tests are still tests
that are done at major
universities as research. Okay. No,
- Like how do you like, get
a blood test with your doctor
to ask how if your little od
- Is, you can't, you can't,
no, you can't. See, that's
- What I,
- It's still in the area of research.
Okay. So you would
literally have to be part
of a research study
that was looking for it.
- Got it.
- But I'm standing there going, well,
they've documented.
I mean, I, I, I would
love anybody out there
to look up glutathione and aging.
Look it up on, on, on, on your,
what you got on your little
Google machine. Google
- That
- , and you'll see crazy,
really well established
bigger studies which show
that when individuals
have more glutathione
inside their cells, they use an,
an instance within the study
of a 74-year-old man who had
a chronological age of 74,
but he had a biological age,
which means the functioning
of his body, and that includes skin
and things like that of a 40-year-old.
Okay. And they found
out that the only thing
that was different was a high
intracellular glutathione.
Then on the other end of it,
like people like Kurt Cobain,
you know, from the, from the
nineties, the grunge era.
Okay. Yeah. He literally took, and,
and his body had very low
intracellular glutathione in it.
Even at 27, he probably
had that of a, a 70
or 80-year-old in that level.
And, you know, it made it much
more easily for such things
as overdoses to affect
you and kill you off.
Mm-Hmm. . So the situation
is, is I said to myself,
how do I increase
intracellular glutathione?
Um, and, and, and, you know,
how do I experience this whole thing?
I decided to be able to
start taking a supplement,
which is alpha lipoic acid.
Now, this is where it's interesting,
many people out there are like, oh,
I take alpha lipoic acid,
but they take the L form of
it, L as in Larry, as opposed
to the R form, right?
- Oh,
- Yes. The L form, I mean,
the therapeutic amounts I'm looking
for are over a thousand
milligrams a day, okay.
Of alpha lippo acid in my body.
All the research, by the
way, was done on intravenous,
not on taking it orally.
Okay? So people are out there trying
to replicate this great research
to get a thousand milligrams
into their system,
but guess how much you absorb
what percentage you
absorb from just regular
alpha lipoic acid?
The lfor, they, they don't use
the word l it's just listed
as alpha lipoic acid, one to 2% of it. One
- To 2%. That's it.
- Literally, you would have
to make, make those numbers,
you'd have to take between
three and six bottles a day.
It's crazy, not doable. The second
- Component of, uh, oral,
like liquid supplements,
powder supplements, because
it does absorb in your body a
- Lot.
Well, there's, there's a
lot of different kinetics
and a lot of different
research in, in regards
to different forms of the
powders and the actual liquids,
and also binding them to
fats as well, which seems
to do amazing things for absorption.
So that's, that was
the, that was the L form
and all the research
was done on the R form.
If you get the R form, it
costs three times as much.
And I'm like, why does it
cost three times as much?
Looked at the research, it's
absorbed 10 to 15% of it,
as opposed to one to 2% of it.
Okay, then,
but you still need to take a bottle
a day to hit those numbers.
Oh my god. Okay. Crazy.
So I found this form,
it's called lipo spheric.
You can find that online. Just look it up.
Lip aspheric, r alpha lipoic acid. Okay.
It's absorbed not one or 2%, not 10
or 15%, 60% absorbed.
Okay. So instead of me,
that's, that's pretty impressive, right?
That's what I take. I take the equivalent
of 60% of the amount.
I take approximately 1500
milligrams of it, okay?
On a day in this lipo spheric
form, it comes in packets.
Um, and uh, I woke up after
about nine days of this,
and I looked in the mirror
and I'm like, where are the ridges on
the bags underneath my
eyes? 'cause I had to,
- I have to say, you do look good, .
- Thank you, thank you so much.
And I was, I looked looking in the mirror,
I was like, am I still dreaming?
I really thought that. I was like,
and then I just looked, I'm
going, no, the ridges are gone
and the wrinkles on your
forehead are like down by,
you know, 50, 75% and
then around your eyes.
So I was like, wow. I also
started noticing my digestive
track started getting younger.
Okay. My poops are just amazing
these days, you know? Now.
Yes, I do use what you called,
I do use a, a, your product
name the product again, come on here.
- Travel
- Travele. And where do you get that?
Oh, hold on a second.
Ee z natural health.com.
I mean, that stuff's the bomb.
I, I, i, I just gotta say
- Thank you for the plug, .
- Little, little plug
stuff works well, come on.
We're talking about stuff
that works here. Okay. great.
Marvelous. But boy, my pooping
with this has just been
just absolutely amazing.
So this, this stuff called, um,
alpha Lipoic Acid is really
amazing at building this
intracellular glutathione,
and I'm feeling it in my days.
So I highly recommend that specific form,
that lipo spheric form of it.
Try to get about 1500 milligrams in a day.
- Alright, that sounds
like it's the Fountain
of Youth. Is this the
secret
- ?
I, I, i, I, I don't know.
I think, I think our friend nce, you know,
remember Nce Pon Deon, um, I
think Pons would be very happy
with us right now, so,
- Well, that's exciting.
You, you heard it here, ladies
and gentlemen on the Gutsy Babe podcast.
That this, it could be the
secret to the Fountain of Youth.
- Oh my goodness gracious.
Listen in, make sure you write stuff down
and make sure you subscribe
and like, thank you.
He goes, we gonna, we gonna
take your wrinkles away?
No, there we go. .
- Well, speaking, going
back to the inflammation,
and it's made a huge, clearly,
it's made a huge difference
in, in your life currently.
Yeah. I've been, uh,
drinking mushroom coffee
- Uhhuh. Okay.
- And I've noticed a
difference in my own body
with the aches and pains
that it has taken it away.
Yeah. So I've stopped taking
my regular caffeinated coffee
and I've switched it to
mushroom coffee lately,
and I've noticed a huge difference
with the inflammation in my body.
- You know, there's the,
the mechanism behind
that is very, very interesting.
Mm-Hmm, . What these
mushrooms do is they modulate
immune response.
Mm-Hmm. , when you have
to deal with drugs,
they either boost something
or they inhibit something.
Okay? Yeah. So if it's too
low, take this, it'll boost it.
So on and so forth. When you start working
with these adaptogenic mushrooms Mm-Hmm.
it normalizes things, okay? Mm-Hmm.
doesn't boost your immune
system doesn't lower it,
it normalizes it.
So when you have a
normalized immune system,
when you feel aches
and pains in your body, generalized aches
and pains, to a very, very
large extent, it's due to,
and this is according to
naturopathic medicine, it's due
to an imbalance of immune
responses in the gut.
Okay? And if we balance that
out, you're gonna end up
with those sym with those loss of symptoms
that you're having there,
which is dynamite. Good on you.
- Yeah. Well that's the whole
premise of the gutsy babe
listening to your gut. And
- That's right.
- The gut is your core, right?
They call that your second brain.
- Yep.
- So really focusing on fixing your gut
to being extremely
healthy could change your
whole dynamic on the way.
- Most definitely. And if
you trust your gut as it's
as I know you do , you'll go far as
well,
- . Exactly.
- Marvelous. Marvelous.
- Alright. So
how does getting covid
play a role in depression
and in insomnia?
- Oh, this is really, really interesting.
Let's take a look at what covid
shows up as. Okay. Mm-Hmm.
covid is very interesting,
you know, yes it is a virus,
but it acts more like an
inflammatory disorder.
Okay? Mm-Hmm. , one of the
examples of this is, is um,
what they started noticing in
individuals who got covid is
that they found out those individuals,
if they had themselves like
a knee injury earlier on in
life, their knee would flare
up if they had themselves
weaknesses within their lung, maybe
that asthma earlier on in life,
they don't even have it now.
It would come back again. Okay.
- Which I do have, I have asthma.
- Yeah. So the situation
is, is it will take
with adding inflammation
and it will take the areas of
possible weakness in your body
and make them come pop out.
Okay? But the real point of
this is it's probably more
of an inflammatory
disorder in the way it acts
than a virus per se.
So when we stand there
and we go, oh my goodness
gracious, if it's giving us
that systemic inflammation,
it's going back to
that whole inflammation
depression connection.
Okay? So if we have ourselves this excess
of inflammation in our
body through having covid,
and sometimes it lingers,
that's that long covid thing
that one outta 10 people
get who get covid, okay?
Then it's going to take
and inhibit our ability to make serotonin.
That's not good. It's not
only not good in regards
to staying happy and calm,
but it's not good for something
else, which is interesting.
It's not good for sleep right?
Now if we take a look at your
sleep during the night, okay,
we'll get at into that a little bit more.
But if we take a look at
your sleep during the night,
we find out that serotonin
is responsible for 60%
of a healthy sleep cycle.
If you don't have good
amounts of serotonin,
you're not getting good sleep.
So depression and insomnia
can be linked back
to systemic inflammation.
And covid acts more like an inflammatory
disorder than it does a virus,
- Which makes that all makes sense.
Yeah. And sleeping is
obviously very important.
That's where your body heals.
And if you're not sleeping,
of course it's gonna
exasperate all the
inflammation in your body.
Mm-Hmm. and cause depression.
- So - To simplify it,
for me, that makes sense.
- I'm the science guy.
We count on people like you to be able
to take our complex con concepts
and get them out to the world in a way
that people go, oh, I get that. So thank
you
- .
So when we're talking about
insomnia, you had spoken
of treating this health challenge
and more of a patient centered fashion
by identifying a person's sleep type.
Can you tell us more about this approach
and the specific treatments for each type?
- Sure. I'll even bring
your listeners through it
so they can sort of figure out
what they are. How's that sound?
- That'd be great. I'd like
to know what sleep type I'm .
- So there's three different areas
in which I'm gonna ask
you a question about,
and you are going to, and
the audience is going to take
and go, okay, which area
bothers me the worst
about my sleep disturbance?
Okay, I'll give you
three different things.
A, I have problems getting to sleep.
B, I have problems staying asleep.
Like I wake up in the middle of the night,
like at three in the morning
or whatever, you know,
or C, when I wake up in the morning,
even though I may have had a full night's
sleep, I still feel like crap.
Okay. So I have problems getting
to sleep, staying asleep,
or waking up feeling refreshed.
Alright? You figure out the one
that is the most bothersome
out of those three for you.
So which would it be for you?
- Um, it's between B and C.
- Between B and C.
So the situation is, is
that you sometimes wake up
in the middle of the night,
and when you wake up in the morning,
you find yourself on a regular basis
or only A, A, a, a what?
Call only a sporadic basis,
waking up feeling tired.
- I wake up multiple times throughout the
night, so we'll go with B.
- Mm-Hmm, , let's go with B.
That sounds great. Mm-Hmm, .
So the situation is that we're
dealing with B at this point.
B is interesting because the
folks at Jocelyn Diabetes
Center, that's the, um, the diabetes arm
of Harvard Medical, okay?
Coined a term known as
nocturnal hypoglycemia. Okay?
Nocturnal hypoglycemia is
when you have interruptions in
your sleep during the
night, during the night,
or you fully wake up.
And the worst case scenario
of it is when you wake up
and run for water, one run to urinate
or run for a midnight snack.
Those are the worst case scenarios of it.
It means that your blood sugar took a drop
and all of a sudden your
dreams are like, Hey,
I got no more sugar to
be able to, you know,
fuel my brain here during these dreams.
Wake up. Okay?
That can cause problems because waking up
and breaking your healthy sleep cycles
makes you feel like crud in the morning.
Here's a simple way that
you can deal with that
and everybody in the
audience can deal with that.
Individual has problems.
Staying asleep in the middle of the night
is you wanna be able to
make sure your blood sugar
dips less in the middle of the night.
So what I would recommend
is, if you are not allergic
to peanuts, if you are, don't do that.
But if you're not allergic to peanuts,
take yourself a tablespoon
of peanut butter.
Make sure it has no sugar in it.
'cause remember, if we
take something very sugary
late at night before you go to bed,
it's gonna form a rebound effect
and you'll end up crashing anyway.
So no sugar, peanut butter or
no sugar almond butter. Okay?
Tablespoon before you go to bed,
that will even out your
blood sugar response
and you won't have that dip.
And chances are you will
wake up less often, if at all
during the middle of the night.
- Okay? I'm gonna test this out
because I wake up to go to the
bathroom consistently, right?
I always assumed that it was just
because I have a small bladder
or you know, I don't drink
enough water during the day,
and so I'll drink a glass
before bed, which is
the worst thing to do.
I'm aware of that. And, um,
that's a whole other subject
of dehydration and hydration.
- There we go. And we can get
into that at another time.
Yeah. , , there's so much to talk about.
- Uh, but I do like to
eat pistachios before bed.
And I know that has melatonin in it.
- It does have some melatonin in it,
but you know, the interesting thing
that I've started discovering
from neurologists out there
who do lots of sleep work is mm-Hmm, is
that if there are ways
of triggering your own melatonin, okay?
It's better off than taking melatonin.
Because more often than not,
you're not hitting the sweet
spot in regards to the best
specific dosage for you, okay?
Right? So, um, triggering
melatonin is very,
very interesting because when
we stand there, we go, okay,
when does melatonin come in?
Melatonin actually comes in
when the sun goes down, okay?
It sends to the circadian
rhythms in your brain.
It says it's time to produce
this stuff to allow you
to go into rest and repair state.
We call this sleep. So now we are going
to make melatonin for you.
It says it with that weird
sort of announcer thing, ,
you know, it sounds like a Monty Python
thing inside your head.
So the situation is, it's
saying that, now guess
what happens when the sun
comes up in the morning
there, there's light.
So it says, I am switching
off Mel and his melatonins,
and we are turning on
s and her serotonins. ,
okay? And then all of a
sudden Mel says, bye-bye.
And Sarah says, Hey, good morning.
Now, if you're not a morning
person, that could be annoying,
but hey, that's Sarah's personality.
Alright? So as you're dealing
with that, that's what happens.
So the sunlight and the night
gives us this normal thing,
but when you have yourself a situation
in which you are literally,
and now the sunlight it sees, the thing
that triggers the w the
waking up is the blue tones in
the sunlight, okay?
The trigger of turning off the melatonin
and turning on the serotonin.
Now the blue tones. But
what if you give artificial
blue tones in the middle
of the night when you should
be producing melatonin?
I mean, the lights are
down. Your body's saying,
I'm gonna produce a melatonin party.
And you're saying, no, no,
no. Hold on a second here.
A little sobriety for you.
I'm gonna give you some blue lights.
Oh my goodness. Why are
you doing that to me?
It says, and the blue lights
come from your computers.
They come from your phones,
they come from your TV sets.
Okay? Mm-Hmm,
and even forms of light
as you sleep that go
through your eyelids.
So some people sleep with a nightlight.
They found out the absolute
worst thing for two things,
being able to stay asleep and
have proper melatonin levels.
Mm-hmm. . And also for gaining
weight, very interestingly,
having either blackout curtains
or wearing a mask is one
of the most important
parts they're starting
to find out in regards
to weight loss programs.
But getting full night's sleep too.
So if you're in a situation
where you have those switcher code,
where you have those screens on,
give yourself a break an hour
or two before you go to bed.
Worst comes to worst. And you
must watch social media, which
I question your I question that.
Um, but in that worst case scenario,
then wear some blue blocker glasses.
Okay? So we can block those
so you don't get affected.
- Great advice.
- There you go. It's all good stuff.
So the different types of what
you call it, uh, sleep types.
Mm-Hmm. is an individual.
If the person says, well,
my primary problem is I
just can't get to sleep.
When I get to sleep, it's all good.
But when I, I can't get to sleep.
Those people are the people
that, yeah, you may treat
with some melatonin, that's fine.
Those are the people you
wanna work with their,
with their sleep hygiene.
So make sure the room is
dark and make sure no screens
after a certain point, okay?
Those individuals also are
individuals many times if
they're stressed, okay?
And they're going to bed
and they're having problems sleeping
because they are thinking a lot, okay?
The overthinkers, it's
stressed and overthinking.
They call it stressed and worried
within sleep architecture,
those individuals, there's
a Chinese, um, approach,
which is known as Jujube or Sisyphus.
Same thing. And you can,
you can simply get it at a Whole Foods
or you can get it at
a a health food store.
Um, it's relatively innocuous,
but strangely enough it takes
and calms down what they call
your liver fire in Chinese
medicine, which all
these different thoughts
come up from it, okay?
It calms it down and people just
get to bed and they think less.
So juju B or YP can be
helpful for those people,
for an individual who has
tight muscles and things like that.
Taking something simple
like, like, um, uh,
a taking like calm with magnesium
and calcium in it, one
of those powders, you know what I mean?
Which is a magnesium powder
that can be helpful as well.
But boy oh boy, if you don't
handle your sleep hygiene
with darkness and taking
care of those blue screens,
uh, all bets are off.
So that's the first type.
I can't get to sleep.
Second type we discussed,
which was the nocturnal hypo,
hypo, uh, uh, hypoglycemics.
Okay? Um, uh, and,
and see if you can intercede
in regards to the, uh,
having the, uh, uh, the, the
nut butter before going to bed.
And then the last type is
the sleep architecture type.
That's where basically your cycles
of sleep throughout the
night got disturbed in
certain types of ways.
So you wake up feeling like
garbage in that situation.
And if it's that last one, I
highly recommend people going
for a sleep study, okay?
To really get the full Monty when it comes
to all the different types of hygiene.
You can have ways of handling it.
'cause that one's a deeper area.
And I'd highly recommend
that, especially for people
who chose that is the number
one thing that bothers them.
That area can also be,
interestingly enough,
a low thyroid, okay?
So you wanna be able to
take a look at it, go
to the experts, get a full
sleep study, check in with your,
with your, uh, primary care
physician, um, as it relates
to the findings of the sleep study,
so you can get an overall look in
regards to your bodily health,
- Right?
Yeah. Great. Now I know
my sleep type. There
- You go
- This out with some, uh,
no sugar almond butter. There
- You go.
I knew, I knew you'd be
shooting for almond butter.
You health girl.
- So many p excuse me.
So many people suffer from pain,
but can't tolerate over
the counter pain meds
like ibuprofen.
Mm-Hmm. Can you share some
of the most effective therapies for pain?
- Well, the first thing we
wanna take a look at here is
we take a look at aspirin.
Aspirin's actually made
out of white willow bark.
I mean, literally aspirin,
the stuff which is an original pain liver,
and now they use it
more for blood thinning.
You know, aspirin was made
from something in nature.
So understand that most of
these drugs had some sort
of original roots in your backyard
or on a mountaintop somewhere.
So that's one thing to
take into account here.
If we take a look at the
research in comparison, um,
for individuals with osteoarthritis
pain, um, as it relates
to comparing ibuprofen to turmeric,
they found out that individuals
who are taking turmeric
along with black pepper,
which activates the turmeric
and makes it easier to absorb, okay?
Mm-Hmm, actually had better
results than the ibuprofen.
Now, albeit they needed to
take high amounts of it,
but there's one simple way
in which you can take high
amounts of turmeric
besides becoming an
expert in Indian cooking.
Okay? And that is with a good brand
of golden milk powder.
Mm-Hmm, okay. Mm-Hmm.
, which has tons of
turmeric in it with a couple
of other spices in there, which also tend
to be anti-inflammatory.
Usually they put a little
black pepper in there too.
Mm-Hmm, , okay? It's known in
the, in the biochemical world
as bio parin, but it helps
to absorb the turmeric.
And by just having a
simple one for breakfast
and one in the evening, you
can get those higher amounts.
So you don't take the NSAIDs,
non-steroidal anti-inflammatories,
which the, um, uh,
the ibuprofen is.
So why do you wanna
not take the ibuprofen?
Well, ibuprofen can be
real helpful. Mm-Hmm.
Um, and it, and can be real
fast at a relatively low
dose, which is awesome.
But one out of 10 individuals,
according to recent studies,
have shown that individuals
will have gastric, uh,
bleeding serious enough
to give 'em the hospital if
they take it for over 10 days,
one out of 10 individuals.
So most people take that
stuff for chronic pain.
Mm, pain you have a long term,
probably not the the best thing.
No, try something like
the actual golden milk.
That's one way of doing it. Okay?
Another thing is something called buswell.
Now this is really interesting.
When it comes to inflammation,
there's two different
types of inflammation.
One is cyclooxygenase.
Sometimes people know them
as Cox two inhibitors. Okay?
That means it's, it's
affecting, uh, uh, Cox
or Cyclooxygenase.
That's where they were
using things like, um, uh,
Celebrex and so on and so forth.
Um, and, uh, and um, also
things like, uh, uh, ibuprofen.
These are all what you call,
these are all non-steroidal
anti-inflammatories,
but they can form gastric bleeding.
The second area is where
the real bad pain comes in,
where people use opiates, okay?
And that's lip oxygenase or locks, LOX.
Now, what can you use to be
able to block that evil stuff?
Because that's the bad pain, all right?
And that's why people get
addicted on this stuff.
It's just like, oh, I'm
finally outta relief,
but now I have an addiction, okay?
Yeah. Is something called
boswellia, okay? Mm-Hmm.
Boswellia Serrata, which is
the genus and species of this.
You can buy that in any whole,
whole food store or something like that.
Boswellia has been shown
to block effectively Bach
lip oxygenase, as well
as Narcan, okay?
Which is basically opium. Okay?
So yes, once again, you have
to use higher dosages like the turmeric,
but boy oh boy, it can be helpful
for blocking that as well.
So there's a number of different choices.
- Liquid, it's liquid form, right?
- Um, it, it, it, um, uh, the VAs
and the turmeric comes in powder form,
liquid form, capsule form.
Um, the absorption rates don't
necessarily change on this.
If you go with liquid
form, it's the actual,
what you have added to in turmeric,
it should be bio parin or black pepper.
And Boswellia seems
to have the same absorption rates
no matter how you handle it.
So that, that's good.
But some of 'em, yeah,
it's better to do liquid most de
- That's really, really
fascinating and interesting
because I actually am
allergic to ibuprofen. My, I
- Freak out.
Oh my. Ouch. Yeah.
- So I don't actually take any of that,
so I always looking for an alternative.
- There we go. It's going, it is going on.
A little bit of a golden
milk excursion with you,
and you'll check back in.
- I have some of that at home. ,
- What'd
- You say? I do have some of that.
- Then start
- Using it.
Have golden milk, and I
do have the boswalia here
- At Golden Milk with Boswellia,
the company that I used
to work with, okay.
Which was one of the leaders
in the field of doing research
that's published in peer review
journals on its supplements
where other people just don't.
Um, they combined a, a
turmeric with Boswell,
and the formula was very, very helpful.
So if you take some bo
with your golden milk,
let's see how you do.
- I won't try that. There
- We go. There we go.
- When we're talking
about intestinal health,
you had mentioned there
is a simple visual stool
analysis anyone could do
to understand what's going
on in your intestines
and provide a powerful natural solution
for your digestive health challenges.
Can you tell us more about that?
- Ooh, I love that one because
it really empowers people.
Mm-Hmm, , it's a great
screening, cool tool.
Is it a total diagnostic?
No, but boy, oh boy, it
nails it about 80 to 90%
of the time, and it was taught to me
by a naturopathic doctor
about 25 years ago.
And ever since then, I've been like,
wow, I'll tell everybody.
So basically speaking,
there's a couple of different parameters.
The first thing is everybody,
or most everybody looks down
at, you know, their, their,
their, their prize that
they gave to the world
after they're done in,
in, uh, uh, fecal matter.
And they look down there and you go, Hmm,
but they don't know
what they're looking at.
So let's give you some insights on here.
If the actual stool itself is anywhere
between light brown all the
way up to yellowish, okay,
then that means you don't have enough good
bacteria in your intestines.
Why do I say that? Because if, uh,
what happens is your bile that dumps
through gallbladder into
your digestive tract up
by your small intestines, okay?
On the train towards
making poop, all right?
That bile is yellowish and it's
also a little bit greenish.
Alright? What, what makes a
healthy poop not be yellowish?
And greenish is the good
bacteria that eats away at
that bolus of food as it's going down.
Mm-Hmm, . And that makes a
medium brown to darker brown.
All right? So if you have a situation
where you don't have
good bacteria, it's time
to take a probiotic.
Alright? So get yourself a
probiotic with between six
and eight different strains in it.
Make sure it's refrigerated
and take it and enjoy yourself.
If that is your case, if
it's coming out black as tar,
get yourself a full physical,
because there may be some
things going on within the
gastrointestinal tract, including bleeding
or other types of things
that you wanna have looked
into by your physician.
But most cases it's either light brown
or dark to medium brown.
You want to go for dark to medium brown.
If it's light brown, get a probiotic.
The second thing you want to
be able to take a look at is
how many chunks does it come out in?
Oh my goodness. We're
getting at the chunks now.
Oh, all right.
Well, if you hang around
with enough functional medicine people,
you're gonna end up talking about poop.
Just get used to it. So the situation is
and I'm on the Gutsy Bay
Podcast show. So we exactly.
- We're, we're all about the healthy
poop
- .
There you go. Let's do something
good today. Every morning.
All right, so the situation is, is that
how many chunks does it come outta?
If it comes out in one or two
chunks, that's fine. Okay?
But it comes out in multiple chunks,
or worse yet in just so many chunks.
It's like more towards the loose side.
That is a sign that you're
not breaking down your food in
your upper digestive tract, your stomach
and small intestines.
Mm-Hmm, . So you need more enzymes.
So if you have more than two chunks,
take yourself some digestive enzymes.
Here's a little insight for you.
You wanna take all digestive enzymes
before you start the meal, right?
Beforehand. 'cause you want
your gastrointestinal tract
to be coated with the enzymes
as the food's going down there.
Alright? So take a look. You
got more than two pieces there.
It's time for zi enzymes. Mm-Hmm, .
The next thing is, is talking about fiber.
I mean, a lot of people
really just don't have a good
quality amount of fiber in
their diet, even vegetables.
And, and, and pooping is an
issue in the United States
as you know quite well.
Exactly. There you go.
So the situation is,
is if an individual doesn't
have enough fiber in their
system, the bulking and a
lot of people will take fiber
for constipation, that can make it worse.
Okay? But if they don't have
enough fiber in their system,
what they'll find out is that
their, what you're called,
that their poops, okay?
The best are not thick enough.
So the best way is to be able
to take your middle finger,
your forefinger, and the the finger that's
between your forefinger
and your pinky finger.
Like, like take all three of them
and you wanna 'em put
'em together like this.
And you wanna put a ring around
it like this, all the way up
above the knuckle, then pull out the ring.
And that's how wide your
poof is healthy, okay?
It's actually, it's actually a test
for sphincter ter expansion,
but it also gives you
a healthy with a poop.
If you find it's thinner than that,
take some fiber, aren't it?
If you find it's thicker than that,
get to the bathroom, more open.
Stop holding often. Stop holding it in .
You know, we're the, we're the
only creatures in the world
that hold it in.
Everybody else is standing there
going, whoa, it's time to go.
Bye-Bye. What do bears do in the wood?
Yeah, that's what I'm doing. All
right,
- .
- Alright. So, but we stand
around going, I still have
to finish this report, so I'm
gonna damage my intestines.
Here we go. We don't want
that. No one wants that.
So that's another area.
So the last area is, does
your poop sink or float?
Okay? Mm-Hmm, , you want it to sink.
You don't want it to float. Why? Mm-Hmm, .
Well, a byproduct
of bad bacteria in your
intestines is the production
of different types of petrifying gases.
But if you take poop
and you imbue it with all
these gases, it tends to float.
So what you wanna do is
you wanna look at that
and go, Hmm, maybe I need
to kill off some bad things in there.
Alright? And there's some great
approaches that you can do that with.
One of two of my favorites
are berberine, which tends
to feed good bacteria
and inhibit bad bacteria.
And then the second thing that ber
and berberine does a
lot of different things.
Some people even call it
today's oz, uh, natural ozempic.
I'm like, well, that's a
lot of plain, but whatever.
Um, but, but either berberine sulfate
or you wanna be able
to possibly use something
called red thyme oil.
Okay? A lot of people
have heard of oregano oil
and oregano oil has an ability to be able
to kill up parasites and yeast
and things like that in
the gastrointestinal tract.
Yeah. Because it contains
an active ingredient known
as thymol in it.
But if you wanna be able
to get a thymol powerhouse,
you get red thyme oil with
five to six times as much
concentrated thymol in
there as, as, uh, oreg oil.
Oh my god. Works really well.
Take some berberine along with some
of the, uh, red thyme oil.
And if you find yourself in
that situation with a bunch
of floaty poop, let's sink those
battleships
- .
- Okay? So that's my
answer to that system.
And, uh, it, it's, it's, it's,
it's got a good track
record to it. So I'm,
- That's a lot of valuable information.
Gut health, that's what we're all about.
If you could recommend just
three lifestyle changes
that would make the biggest
impact on a person's overall
health, what would that be?
- Hydration number one. Yes.
There's this, there's this book.
There's this book, I
forgot the darn name of it,
but it was by this Iranian doctor.
So he is a Persian doctor,
and during the Iran Iraq wars, he,
he didn't have any more
medicine, so he treated people
with different amounts of water.
'cause hydration is so prevalent,
um, throughout the world
and many times you are dehydrated
before you even get thirsty.
Okay? Yeah. Um, uh, uh,
but it was even horrible
in those desert countries.
You know what I mean? Mm-Hmm. .
So hydration has a therapeutic
effect to, its amazing.
I highly recommend an individual
looks at their weight.
Let's say a person man
weighs 200 pounds. Okay?
Then you take that number 200 cut in
half and then do it in ounces.
So that person should be
taking a hundred ounces a day.
You do that for a week or two,
your body starts feeling a bit different.
Things start feeling a bit better.
Things work better. Okay? So
- Are you constantly having to pee?
- Ah, this is interesting.
Having to pee is very, very interesting
because having
to pee comes from a couple
of different reasons.
And in America today, it's
not the reason that you think,
the reason that we're thinking is
because I took in a lot of water,
I'm gonna have to pee a lot, right?
Yeah. Yeah. The real reason
that pops up a lot is
blood sugar imbalance.
That's why they say as one
of the tests for individuals
who either have pre-diabetes
or diabetes, how often do you pee?
Okay? And those individuals
are peeing, uh, like
between four and 10 times a day.
But people who have really
good balanced blood sugar,
even if they take in a lot of
water itself, they're peeing
between two and three times a day.
Okay? So the body's trying to get rid
of the extra sugar in the
blood by peeing it out.
Because before pee was
pee, it was blood, okay?
Pee is filtered blood, that's
what your kidneys do. All right?
- Alright. So it's the blood sugar
- Levels.
And also, do you know what
diabetes stands for in Latin
sweet urine?
- Wow.
- Because the doctors,
before we had our, had our
fancy machines used to take
and put the tester stick in there
and put in their mouth to
taste it strangely enough.
And if it was sweet,
then they had diabetes.
So hydration would be number one.
Number two on this would
be getting enough sleep.
Really follow some of
that sleep hygiene I was
talking about before.
Yeah. Really, really, really,
really huge. Okay. Yeah.
And, and the last thing is,
is watch out for the amount
of carbs in your diet.
Oh my goodness gracious.
There's so many people out
there who have so many carbs
that they're taking in
and their blood sugar.
The reason why diabetes is
growing by double digit numbers
many years is
because we as a society
put sugar into everything.
Okay? Best way to control sugar,
start cooking your own darn
meals,
- ,
- And you know what's in it.
- It's
- True. So those are my top three.
I'll standing by 'em.
- Those are great tips. There you go.
Great, great tips. So thank you for that.
- You're quite welcome.
- So going back
to the intestinal health
real quick, Uhhuh, um,
which you shared was very, very valuable,
very valuable information. Oh,
- So thank you. Input.
- Mm-Hmm. Um, but when
people have diarrhea, right?
That I believe is a
form of dehydration. Um,
- It can be dehydrating. Yeah. It,
- It's constipation regardless.
So I think when you are
constipated, not going
to the bathroom, and if you
have the opposite effect, it's
diarrhea, that is a form of constipation.
Mm-Hmm. , can you explain
the differences of someone
with constipation versus
someone with diarrhea?
- Okay. So basically what it is,
is it's usually the triggers.
Okay? Mm-Hmm.
, classically diarrhea is
when something gets into your
gastrointestinal tract.
Mm-hmm. . And especially
around the lower part
of your small intestines,
and then all the rest
of your large intestines, your bowel.
Mm-Hmm. . If it's irritating,
what happens is your
body responds with, oh,
let's wash that out of there.
So it adds lots of water from your body,
mostly taking it from blood, okay?
Um, and, and it's not
like it stays as blood.
It comes in as a water. Okay?
And it flushes out that area.
And that is the classic
reasoning for diarrhea.
Constipation is a bit different,
and constipation has a number
of d different possible factors to it.
First of all, I mean,
one of the biggest issues
that I see out there with constipation,
and this is why Squatty
potties work, is when it comes
to the actual core strength
of the average American,
I, I'm sorry, we're really bad .
- Yeah, no, it's true.
- Yeah, we have hot, it's true.
I mean, how do you
expect to push out a poop
if you don't have muscles to push?
- Yeah, I recall in my
twenties, my gastrologist
that I needed to work on my core.
Yeah. I'll do situps. .
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. We also
take in a lot of processed foods
and the gut doesn't know
how to deal with those.
So they just sort of sit there
and they slow down the transit time.
They, they had this one horrible, um, uh,
setting net live skit
where, um, there was a man
who was playing a, a, a, a
big poppy who is a, who's the
what called, who's a, always been a star
for the Boston Red Sox,
but he's also a bit of an entrepreneur,
and he is like, sort of, you know, wild
and crazy kind of guy.
And he, he said, he
said, I've got a new way
to make sure your dog doesn't
poop all, all over the house.
And he says, what is it?
He says, and he shows the product
and he says, what's it made of?
He says, cheese, just
give 'em lots of cheese.
And they only poop once a
month, but it's a real big one.
So when it comes down to it,
there's things like processed
things that just slow down
you gastrointestinal tract.
If you stand there
and you get yourself more
healthy natural foods,
and it's gonna make it easy.
And if you get caught
and stuck in a situation
where you're not pooping,
you need to poop.
Okay? It forms byproducts, which are
to a certain degree poisonous
to your body if you,
if you don't deal with
them, if you don't poop
after a while, you can form mega colon,
which requires resectioning of the bowel.
Okay? All these horrible things.
Go to EEZ natural health.com
and buy some of this darn product I lit.
Literally, it's so funny,
I, I, I took some of it.
I was like, oh, I want some of those.
So I bought like a few
bags of it from you,
and you're like, okay, you
know, you got a new shipment.
And she's like, look
at these new packages.
I'm like, ah, that's
great. I need to poop.
So, so I kind of fum. I took
one while I was in front of me.
I was like, it was really
tasty. I was like, okay,
maybe I'll get addicted to
this stuff, but whatever.
Um, it, it was like, what was,
what's the flavor raspberry? What is it?
- It's, the name is
Bora Bora Berry. So yes,
- Raspberry Bora, bora Berry.
For me, that was delicious.
So I put it down, and then
I just took the ride home,
which was about 20 minutes away,
and I literally said, you'd
time to go to the bathroom.
We're going to present a
beautiful number of two for you.
And I put one down.
That was all of the
different characteristics
that I'd mentioned was a healthy poop.
It was all there in one package
20 minutes after I took it.
And it wasn't diarrhea.
I wasn't forming de
dehydration to diarrhea.
- I recall that you sent me
a text saying, this works.
And I have to say it
worked pretty quick for you
because, uh, you know, every
human body works differently
and it's gonna work at a
different time for every person.
Uh, for me, I have to
take it the night before .
- And, and that's probably
more often the case, but,
but I was just like, instant magic.
Thank you very much. You
can take it every day.
I was like, are you David Copperfield ?
She's David Copperfield of the Poop Group.
- Yes. It, it's all
safe, natural ingredients
that could just help,
also helps your immune system, which is
- God bless, because 70%
of our immune system is in
our gastrointestinal tract.
And if you keep things moving down
there, it keeps healthier.
- Exactly. Exactly.
- Rock it rocket.
- Oh my goodness. Adam,
you've been amazing.
You've shared a wealth of
information with us today.
I just wanna say thank you
for sharing your knowledge
with us, and I look forward
to having you back sometime.
- That sounds marvelous.
I am here at your
disposal, just waiting and
willing.
- .
Well, thank you. Thank you, thank you.
Well, that's it for this episode
of the Gutsy Babe Podcast.
I am Liz Hall wishing
you a week of empowerment
and gutsy experiences with Lebanese.
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